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Maximilian Seesslen, 16.12.2024 16:31
| 1 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Eval |
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| 3 | h1. Overall design |
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| 5 | * 4 x red+green LEDs for condition |
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| 6 | * Restart button |
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| 7 | 10 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Iterate over the ADC channels and get Voltage level |
| 8 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Self-Calibrating via MOSFET (shortcuit cable interface) |
| 9 | 30 | Maximilian Seesslen | * draw 100mA. Why? Sonst habe ich keinen Spannungsteiler. Je mehr Strom desto hoeher der Spannungsabfall; optional via mosfet.; 3/0,1= 30 Ohm; 0,3W |
| 10 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | * ADC loesst theoretisch auf "3 / 4096 = approx. 0,0007" Volt auf. |
| 11 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Die Kabel haben AWG28, 212.9 Ohm/km, 1.4 A nach erde, 0.23 A versorgung |
| 12 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | * 0,2129 Ohm/m; 1,0645 Ohm/5m; 2,129 Ohm/10m; |
| 13 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Reihe#/media/Datei:E12_values_graph.svg |
| 14 | 20 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Buzzer would be nice for indication; durchklingeln. Da werde ich lieber Multimeter nehmen. Ist aber kein Aufwand. |
| 15 | * PWM Output |
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| 16 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Pinsocket connected to wires to measure resistance/Voltage directly |
| 17 | * https://www.aeq-web.com/spannungsteiler-microcontroller-berechnen-und-dimensionieren/ |
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| 18 | 39 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Spannungen einzeln schaltbar damit auch kurzschluesse detektiert werden koennen und Kabel-Art. "1:1"; "M" mirrored; "" |
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| 20 | 71 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Cables |
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| 22 | 81 | Maximilian Seesslen | "Telefon Kabel":https://www.tme.eu/de/details/cm04w/telefonleitungen/logilink/ |
| 23 | 82 | Maximilian Seesslen | Telefonkabel: 2.6 Ohm/m ( 4CX6X0.10mm ) "Link":https://www.tme.eu/Document/cfb9fe443334372d3e6660ac7ce1b239/TC1000S-100M.pdf |
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| 25 | 73 | Maximilian Seesslen | 4x6x0,12mm; "( PI*((0,12/2)^2) ) * 6" = 0,07mm² |
| 26 | 74 | Maximilian Seesslen | AWG28 = 0,0804mm² |
| 27 | Trace: 0,15 * 0,035 = 0,00525 |
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| 29 | 77 | Maximilian Seesslen | 4x0,14mm² ; 2x18x0,10mm; "( PI*((0,10/2)^2) ) * 18" = 0,14mm²; outer 1,3x5,3; ca. AWG26 |
| 30 | 78 | Maximilian Seesslen | SZH-002T-P0.5 is AWG28...26 |
| 31 | 75 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 32 | 80 | Maximilian Seesslen | LIYY-A-4X26AWG |
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| 34 | 79 | Maximilian Seesslen | CANBus-Cable: 4x1x0,25mm2 |
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| 36 | 74 | Maximilian Seesslen | | 4x0,14mm² | 148 Ohm/km (Manufacturer) | "Link":https://www.tme.eu/de/details/d-418-5/flachbandleitungen-mehrfarbig/donau-elektronik/418-5/ | |
| 37 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | | AWG28 | 212.9 Ohm/km (Norm) | | |
| 38 | 78 | Maximilian Seesslen | | 4CX6X0.10mm| 2.6 Ohm/m (Manufacturer) | | |
| 39 | 77 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 40 | h1. Involved PCBs |
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| 42 | Feed: power 0,5mm |
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| 45 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Schema |
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| 47 | <pre> |
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| 48 | 3V |
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| 50 | | | Cable |
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| 51 | |-------------->ADC |
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| 52 | | | 30Ohm |
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| 54 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | === |
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| 56 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | </pre> |
| 57 | 50 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 58 | Der Widerstand sollte so groß sein wie der Widerstand des Sensors in der Mitte des Messbereichs. |
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| 61 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Theoretische Spannungen bei AWG28 |
| 62 | 31 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 63 | "E-Reihe":https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Reihe#/media/Datei:E12_values_graph.svg |
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| 65 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | theoretically an device that draws 0,1A, 5V and 5m AWG28 cable: |
| 66 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2=((5*50)/ (50+1,0645) ) = 4,8957691; that should work |
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| 68 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | theoretically an device that draws 0,5A, 5V and 10m AWG28 cable: |
| 69 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2 = ( (5*10) / (10+2,129) ) = 4,1223514 V |
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| 71 | 27 | Maximilian Seesslen | theoretically an device that draws 0,1A, 3V and 5m AWG28 cable: |
| 72 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2=((3*30)/ (30+1,0645) ) = 2,8971978; that should work; 3 - 2,8971978 = 0,1028022 V = 146 ADC steps |
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| 74 | theoretically an device that draws 0,1A, 3V and 10m AWG28 cable: |
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| 75 | U2=((3*30)/ (30+2,129) ) = 2,8012076 |
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| 77 | theoretically an device that draws 0,25A, 3V and 10m AWG28 cable: |
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| 78 | U2= (3 * 12) / (12 + 2,129) = approx. 2,547951 |
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| 80 | theoretically an device that draws 0,5A, 3V and 10m AWG28 cable: |
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| 81 | U2= (3 * 6) / (6 + 2,129) = approx. 2,2142945 |
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| 82 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2= (3 * 6,8) / (6,8 + 2,129) = approx. 2,2846903 |
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| 84 | h1. Calculations I |
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| 85 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 86 | U2=((U*R2)/R_GES) |
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| 88 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | U |
| 89 | R*I |
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| 91 | 5V/0,1A= 50 Ohm |
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| 92 | 5V*0,1A= 0,5 W |
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| 93 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 94 | 5V/0,5A= 10 Ohm |
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| 95 | 5 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 96 | RGes = R1+R2 = 50 |
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| 97 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 98 | 3V=(5*R2)/50 |
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| 99 | *R2 = (3*50)/5 = 30 -> 27 |
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| 100 | R1 = 22* |
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| 101 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | RGES = 49 |
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| 103 | U2 = 5*27/49 = 2,755102 |
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| 105 | 12 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Calculations II |
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| 107 | * Ein Kabel >= 10m soll durchfallen. Koennen trotzdem groessere Wiederstaende verwendet werden? |
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| 109 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | Ohne Widerstand: |
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| 111 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2 = 2,755102 |
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| 113 | Obige werte 1fach, 10m Kabel: |
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| 115 | R2 = 27 |
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| 116 | R1 = 22 |
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| 117 | mit 10m |
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| 118 | U2 = (5*27)/(49+2,129) = 2,6403802 |
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| 119 | 2,755102-2,6403802=0,1147218 |
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| 120 | 0,1147218/0,00073242188 = 156,6335 |
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| 122 | Obige werte 10fach, 10m Kabel: |
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| 124 | R2 = 270 |
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| 125 | R1 = 220 |
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| 126 | mit 10m |
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| 127 | U2 = (5*270)/(490+2,129) = 2,7431832 |
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| 129 | Bei 12Bit ADC: 3 / 4096 = approx. 0,00073242188 V pro ADC-Wert. |
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| 130 | 2,755102-2,7431832=0,0119188 |
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| 131 | 0,0119188 / 0,00073242188 = approx. 16,273135. Thats not super much |
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| 133 | h1. Calculations III |
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| 135 | 0,2129 Ohm/m; |
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| 137 | U2=(U*r2)/(r1+r2) |
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| 138 | =3*1000/(1000+2,129) |
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| 140 | U1=(R1*U2)/R2 |
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| 141 | R1=(r2*u1)/u2 |
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| 143 | u2*(r1+r2)=r2*u |
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| 144 | r1+r2=r2*u/u2 |
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| 145 | r1=(r2*u)/u2-r2 |
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| 147 | 3*12 / (12+0,2129) |
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| 148 | (3-2,9477028) / (3/4096) = 71 |
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| 149 | Theoretisch sind es bei 12 Ohm als R2 und einem 1m Kabel noch 71 ADC-Steps |
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| 153 | h1. Keyfeatures |
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| 155 | * Cable checker |
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| 156 | * Buzzer Durchgangspruefer |
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| 157 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | * PWM Output |
| 158 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 159 | 2 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. MCU |
| 160 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 161 | * "stm32f051c4":https://www.mouser.de/datasheet/2/389/stm32f051c4-1851079.pdf |
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| 162 | 2 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** I have 17; |
| 163 | 25 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** 16 ADC channels |
| 164 | 28 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** 3.06 ab 10 Stueck |
| 165 | 34 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** habe 17 |
| 166 | ** No USB |
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| 167 | 3 | Maximilian Seesslen | * "STM32G030C8T6":https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/stm32g030c8.pdf |
| 168 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** nearly same specs but smaller footprint; LQFP 48 |
| 169 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** 2,68€ inc. Mwst. |
| 170 | 29 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** ADC faster |
| 171 | 28 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** Mentions an 16Bit ADC value via oversampling, but thats complicated: adding white noise in order to calculate further 2 bits by software. |
| 172 | 35 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** Habe 10 |
| 173 | 21 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** No USB |
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| 175 | * 4 ADC IN |
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| 176 | * 4 Spannungs schalten |
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| 177 | * 4 Kalibrierung schalten |
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| 178 | * 2 LED Heartbeat/User |
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| 179 | * 4 LED kabel ROT |
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| 180 | * 4 LED kabel Gruen |
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| 181 | * 4 LED kabel Orange |
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| 182 | * 1 Input button |
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| 183 | 23 | Maximilian Seesslen | * 2 Output PWM |
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| 185 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Bauteile |
| 186 | 25 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 187 | 32 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Widerstaende: WF25P-6R8-5%; SP12-12R; |
| 188 | 33 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** SMD2512-12R-1% |
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| 190 | h1. Display |
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| 192 | 40 | Maximilian Seesslen | LED-Bar? Display? |
| 193 | Ohne Display ists bloed. |
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| 194 | Via CAN/CANDis auch bloed wegen verkabelung. |
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| 195 | Kleines OLED Display waer schon nice. |
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| 197 | 41 | Maximilian Seesslen | "DEP096064B1-Y" |
| 198 | "Datasheet":https://www.tme.eu/Document/7d80b9024b2a78272b470cfa0544c783/DEP096064B1-Y.pdf |
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| 199 | 9.11 Euro; grafisch, brauch ich Schriftart; nicht monierbar |
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| 201 | "REX128128HWAP3N0" |
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| 203 | 41 | Maximilian Seesslen | I2C Text displays; |
| 204 | 42 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 205 | 60 | Maximilian Seesslen | Ein kleines TFT-RGB Display schon fast billiger; 6,77€ |
| 206 | 43 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 207 | "DEM096160ATMH-PWN":https://www.tme.eu/Document/938d60856f558016147975bdab4acc3c/DEM096160ATMH-PWN.pdf |
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| 208 | 96x160 (RGB); da brauch ich mit LCD nicht anfangen |
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| 209 | Dann passt der STM32G030C8 auch perfeckt. 64KB Flash |
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| 210 | 44 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 211 | * 12pin, 3V, Backlight 2,8V; 20mA |
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| 212 | * "GC9107":https://cdn.hackaday.io/files/1881838051221472/GC9107%20DataSheet%20V1.2.pdf |
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| 213 | 45 | Maximilian Seesslen | * FH12-12S-0.5SH-55 |
| 214 | * 12x20 Chars; |
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| 215 | ** "1: 72987 Ohm" |
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| 216 | ** "2: 72987 Ohm" |
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| 217 | ** "3: 72987 Ohm" |
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| 218 | ** "4: 72987 Ohm" |
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| 219 | ** "------------" |
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| 220 | ** "Type: 1:1 " |
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| 221 | ** "Status: " |
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| 222 | 60 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** " Good " |
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| 224 | 61 | Maximilian Seesslen | "DEM080160BVMH-PWN":https://www.tme.eu/Document/6a8f456ac28caf9a0c7ea4be0ef0b282/DEM080160BVMH-PWN.pdf |
| 225 | 62 | Maximilian Seesslen | 80x160; IPS; 7.83€ |
| 226 | 44 | Maximilian Seesslen | 3,1V fuers Backlight sind halt doof. |
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| 228 | h1. USB |
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| 230 | Ohne Display und USB ist es irgendwie doof. Eine schoene Gui haette schon was. |
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| 231 | STM32F042C6U6 mit CAN: CANDis kann das anzeigen. |
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| 232 | Wie wird dsa normal gepowert? Ohnehin USB. |
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| 234 | STM32F042C6U6 haett ich noch |
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| 235 | * UFQFPN48 |
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| 236 | 38 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Reicht 32K fuer USB? |
| 237 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | * STM32F042C6U6 is already one of the cheapest USB; 3,15€ |
| 238 | 46 | Maximilian Seesslen | * STM32L151C6U6: 3,33€ |
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| 240 | h1. Schalten |
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| 242 | R_DS ist ca. 50 milli Ohm bei 2V |
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| 243 | 47 | Maximilian Seesslen | Mit Kalibrier-Kanal i.O. |
| 244 | 48 | Maximilian Seesslen | -> Nur mit P-MOSFET schalten, on per default ist ok. |
| 245 | -> 10K PD; 0,3mA * 5 -> 15mA |
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| 246 | 49 | Maximilian Seesslen | -> internal pulldowns of STM32 are 40K, so 47K should also be fine |
| 247 | -> Theoretically resistors are not decessary during runtime at all. |
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| 248 | 52 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 249 | h1. Consumtion |
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| 251 | Accidantly all 5 channels could be active; |
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| 253 | 52 | Maximilian Seesslen | 250mA * 5; 1,25 ampere would flow. The LDO has to be powerfull. |
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| 255 | 55 | Maximilian Seesslen | Is there any use to power it via USB? Directly 3V? |
| 256 | 54 | Maximilian Seesslen | I have this small 3V JST-USB adapters. |
| 257 | 56 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 258 | 1mm trace width in power supply should be ok, around 15°C temperature rise with all 2,5A. |
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| 259 | 49 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 260 | h1. Vorwiederstand ADC |
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| 262 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | Ist der ADC aus versehen als ausgang und LOW geschaltet, liegen an diesem direkt 3V an, zumindest wenn das zu messende Kabel perfekt bzw. gebrueckt ist. |
| 263 | 63 | Maximilian Seesslen | The maximum current for any one pin is 25 mA sink or source. |
| 264 | An resistor of min 120Ohm (25mA) is needed. 240Ohm @ 3,6V: 15mA |
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| 266 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Schematics |
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| 268 | 70 | Maximilian Seesslen | V_REF+ is connected via 33uH to VDD; 100nF |
| 269 | BOOT0-Pin is not used as default. No interest in serial bootloader at the moment. |
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| 273 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Order |
| 274 | 69 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 275 | 68 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Display; DEM096160ATMH-PWN |
| 276 | * LEDs; LTST-C155KGJRKT |
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| 277 | 57 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Surpressor Diode 3,5PTV; UCLAMP3301D.TCT |
| 278 | 58 | Maximilian Seesslen | * SMD2512-12R-1% |
| 279 | 68 | Maximilian Seesslen | * FPC connector |
| 280 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Spule 33µH; NLV10KTC330 |