Eval » Historie » Version 74
  Maximilian Seesslen, 10.11.2023 13:36 
  
| 1 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Eval | 
|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | |||
| 3 | h1. Overall design | ||
| 4 | |||
| 5 | * 4 x red+green LEDs for condition | ||
| 6 | * Restart button | ||
| 7 | 10 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Iterate over the ADC channels and get Voltage level | 
| 8 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Self-Calibrating via MOSFET (shortcuit cable interface) | 
| 9 | 30 | Maximilian Seesslen | * draw 100mA. Why? Sonst habe ich keinen Spannungsteiler. Je mehr Strom desto hoeher der Spannungsabfall; optional via mosfet.; 3/0,1= 30 Ohm; 0,3W | 
| 10 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | * ADC loesst theoretisch auf "3 / 4096 = approx. 0,0007" Volt auf. | 
| 11 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Die Kabel haben AWG28, 212.9 Ohm/km, 1.4 A nach erde, 0.23 A versorgung | 
| 12 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | * 0,2129 Ohm/m; 1,0645 Ohm/5m; 2,129 Ohm/10m; | 
| 13 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Reihe#/media/Datei:E12_values_graph.svg | 
| 14 | 20 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Buzzer would be nice for indication; durchklingeln. Da werde ich lieber Multimeter nehmen. Ist aber kein Aufwand. | 
| 15 | * PWM Output | ||
| 16 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Pinsocket connected to wires to measure resistance/Voltage directly | 
| 17 | * https://www.aeq-web.com/spannungsteiler-microcontroller-berechnen-und-dimensionieren/ | ||
| 18 | 39 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Spannungen einzeln schaltbar damit auch kurzschluesse detektiert werden koennen und Kabel-Art. "1:1"; "M" mirrored; "" | 
| 19 | 20 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 20 | 71 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Cables | 
| 21 | |||
| 22 | 73 | Maximilian Seesslen | 4x6x0,12mm; "( PI*((0,12/2)^2) ) * 6" = 0,07mm² | 
| 23 | 74 | Maximilian Seesslen | AWG28 = 0,0804mm² | 
| 24 | Trace: 0,15 * 0,035 = 0,00525 | ||
| 25 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 26 | 74 | Maximilian Seesslen | | 4x0,14mm² | 148 Ohm/km (Manufacturer) | "Link":https://www.tme.eu/de/details/d-418-5/flachbandleitungen-mehrfarbig/donau-elektronik/418-5/ | | 
| 27 | | AWG28 | 212.9 Ohm/km (Norm) | | | ||
| 28 | | 4CX6X0.10mm| 2.6 Ohm/m (Manufacturer) | | | ||
| 29 | 71 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 30 | 19 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 31 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Schema | 
| 32 | 22 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 33 | <pre> | ||
| 34 | 3V | ||
| 35 | | | ||
| 36 | | | Cable | ||
| 37 | |-------------->ADC | ||
| 38 | | | 30Ohm | ||
| 39 | | | ||
| 40 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | === | 
| 41 | 22 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 42 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | </pre> | 
| 43 | 50 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 44 | Der Widerstand sollte so groß sein wie der Widerstand des Sensors in der Mitte des Messbereichs. | ||
| 45 | |||
| 46 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 47 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Theoretische Spannungen bei AWG28 | 
| 48 | 31 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 49 | "E-Reihe":https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Reihe#/media/Datei:E12_values_graph.svg | ||
| 50 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 51 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | theoretically an device that draws 0,1A, 5V and 5m AWG28 cable: | 
| 52 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2=((5*50)/ (50+1,0645) ) = 4,8957691; that should work | 
| 53 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 54 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | theoretically an device that draws 0,5A, 5V and 10m AWG28 cable: | 
| 55 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2 = ( (5*10) / (10+2,129) ) = 4,1223514 V | 
| 56 | |||
| 57 | 27 | Maximilian Seesslen | theoretically an device that draws 0,1A, 3V and 5m AWG28 cable: | 
| 58 | 17 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2=((3*30)/ (30+1,0645) ) = 2,8971978; that should work; 3 - 2,8971978 = 0,1028022 V = 146 ADC steps | 
| 59 | |||
| 60 | theoretically an device that draws 0,1A, 3V and 10m AWG28 cable: | ||
| 61 | U2=((3*30)/ (30+2,129) ) = 2,8012076 | ||
| 62 | |||
| 63 | theoretically an device that draws 0,25A, 3V and 10m AWG28 cable: | ||
| 64 | U2= (3 * 12) / (12 + 2,129) = approx. 2,547951 | ||
| 65 | |||
| 66 | theoretically an device that draws 0,5A, 3V and 10m AWG28 cable: | ||
| 67 | U2= (3 * 6) / (6 + 2,129) = approx. 2,2142945 | ||
| 68 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2= (3 * 6,8) / (6,8 + 2,129) = approx. 2,2846903 | 
| 69 | 12 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 70 | h1. Calculations I | ||
| 71 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 72 | U2=((U*R2)/R_GES) | ||
| 73 | 5 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 74 | 4 | Maximilian Seesslen | U | 
| 75 | R*I | ||
| 76 | |||
| 77 | 5V/0,1A= 50 Ohm | ||
| 78 | 5V*0,1A= 0,5 W | ||
| 79 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 80 | 5V/0,5A= 10 Ohm | ||
| 81 | 5 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 82 | RGes = R1+R2 = 50 | ||
| 83 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 84 | 3V=(5*R2)/50 | ||
| 85 | *R2 = (3*50)/5 = 30 -> 27 | ||
| 86 | R1 = 22* | ||
| 87 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | RGES = 49 | 
| 88 | |||
| 89 | U2 = 5*27/49 = 2,755102 | ||
| 90 | |||
| 91 | 12 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Calculations II | 
| 92 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 93 | * Ein Kabel >= 10m soll durchfallen. Koennen trotzdem groessere Wiederstaende verwendet werden? | ||
| 94 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 95 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | Ohne Widerstand: | 
| 96 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 97 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | U2 = 2,755102 | 
| 98 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 99 | Obige werte 1fach, 10m Kabel: | ||
| 100 | |||
| 101 | R2 = 27 | ||
| 102 | R1 = 22 | ||
| 103 | mit 10m | ||
| 104 | U2 = (5*27)/(49+2,129) = 2,6403802 | ||
| 105 | 2,755102-2,6403802=0,1147218 | ||
| 106 | 0,1147218/0,00073242188 = 156,6335 | ||
| 107 | |||
| 108 | Obige werte 10fach, 10m Kabel: | ||
| 109 | |||
| 110 | R2 = 270 | ||
| 111 | R1 = 220 | ||
| 112 | mit 10m | ||
| 113 | U2 = (5*270)/(490+2,129) = 2,7431832 | ||
| 114 | |||
| 115 | Bei 12Bit ADC: 3 / 4096 = approx. 0,00073242188 V pro ADC-Wert. | ||
| 116 | 2,755102-2,7431832=0,0119188 | ||
| 117 | 0,0119188 / 0,00073242188 = approx. 16,273135. Thats not super much | ||
| 118 | 16 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 119 | h1. Calculations III | ||
| 120 | 64 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 121 | 0,2129 Ohm/m; | ||
| 122 | 65 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 123 | U2=(U*r2)/(r1+r2) | ||
| 124 | =3*1000/(1000+2,129) | ||
| 125 | |||
| 126 | U1=(R1*U2)/R2 | ||
| 127 | R1=(r2*u1)/u2 | ||
| 128 | |||
| 129 | u2*(r1+r2)=r2*u | ||
| 130 | r1+r2=r2*u/u2 | ||
| 131 | r1=(r2*u)/u2-r2 | ||
| 132 | 67 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 133 | 3*12 / (12+0,2129) | ||
| 134 | (3-2,9477028) / (3/4096) = 71 | ||
| 135 | Theoretisch sind es bei 12 Ohm als R2 und einem 1m Kabel noch 71 ADC-Steps | ||
| 136 | 65 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 137 | 64 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 138 | 10 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 139 | h1. Keyfeatures | ||
| 140 | |||
| 141 | * Cable checker | ||
| 142 | * Buzzer Durchgangspruefer | ||
| 143 | 7 | Maximilian Seesslen | * PWM Output | 
| 144 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 145 | 2 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. MCU | 
| 146 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 147 | * "stm32f051c4":https://www.mouser.de/datasheet/2/389/stm32f051c4-1851079.pdf | ||
| 148 | 2 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** I have 17; | 
| 149 | 25 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** 16 ADC channels | 
| 150 | 28 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** 3.06 ab 10 Stueck | 
| 151 | 34 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** habe 17 | 
| 152 | ** No USB | ||
| 153 | 3 | Maximilian Seesslen | * "STM32G030C8T6":https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/stm32g030c8.pdf | 
| 154 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** nearly same specs but smaller footprint; LQFP 48 | 
| 155 | 13 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** 2,68€ inc. Mwst. | 
| 156 | 29 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** ADC faster | 
| 157 | 28 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** Mentions an 16Bit ADC value via oversampling, but thats complicated: adding white noise in order to calculate further 2 bits by software. | 
| 158 | 35 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** Habe 10 | 
| 159 | 21 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** No USB | 
| 160 | |||
| 161 | * 4 ADC IN | ||
| 162 | * 4 Spannungs schalten | ||
| 163 | * 4 Kalibrierung schalten | ||
| 164 | * 2 LED Heartbeat/User | ||
| 165 | * 4 LED kabel ROT | ||
| 166 | * 4 LED kabel Gruen | ||
| 167 | * 4 LED kabel Orange | ||
| 168 | * 1 Input button | ||
| 169 | 23 | Maximilian Seesslen | * 2 Output PWM | 
| 170 | |||
| 171 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Bauteile | 
| 172 | 25 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 173 | 32 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Widerstaende: WF25P-6R8-5%; SP12-12R; | 
| 174 | 33 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** SMD2512-12R-1% | 
| 175 | |||
| 176 | h1. Display | ||
| 177 | |||
| 178 | 40 | Maximilian Seesslen | LED-Bar? Display? | 
| 179 | Ohne Display ists bloed. | ||
| 180 | Via CAN/CANDis auch bloed wegen verkabelung. | ||
| 181 | Kleines OLED Display waer schon nice. | ||
| 182 | |||
| 183 | 41 | Maximilian Seesslen | "DEP096064B1-Y" | 
| 184 | "Datasheet":https://www.tme.eu/Document/7d80b9024b2a78272b470cfa0544c783/DEP096064B1-Y.pdf | ||
| 185 | 9.11 Euro; grafisch, brauch ich Schriftart; nicht monierbar | ||
| 186 | |||
| 187 | "REX128128HWAP3N0" | ||
| 188 | 42 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 189 | 41 | Maximilian Seesslen | I2C Text displays; | 
| 190 | 42 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 191 | 60 | Maximilian Seesslen | Ein kleines TFT-RGB Display schon fast billiger; 6,77€ | 
| 192 | 43 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 193 | "DEM096160ATMH-PWN":https://www.tme.eu/Document/938d60856f558016147975bdab4acc3c/DEM096160ATMH-PWN.pdf | ||
| 194 | 96x160 (RGB); da brauch ich mit LCD nicht anfangen | ||
| 195 | Dann passt der STM32G030C8 auch perfeckt. 64KB Flash | ||
| 196 | 44 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 197 | * 12pin, 3V, Backlight 2,8V; 20mA | ||
| 198 | * "GC9107":https://cdn.hackaday.io/files/1881838051221472/GC9107%20DataSheet%20V1.2.pdf | ||
| 199 | 45 | Maximilian Seesslen | * FH12-12S-0.5SH-55 | 
| 200 | * 12x20 Chars; | ||
| 201 | ** "1: 72987 Ohm" | ||
| 202 | ** "2: 72987 Ohm" | ||
| 203 | ** "3: 72987 Ohm" | ||
| 204 | ** "4: 72987 Ohm" | ||
| 205 | ** "------------" | ||
| 206 | ** "Type: 1:1 " | ||
| 207 | ** "Status: " | ||
| 208 | 60 | Maximilian Seesslen | ** " Good " | 
| 209 | |||
| 210 | 61 | Maximilian Seesslen | "DEM080160BVMH-PWN":https://www.tme.eu/Document/6a8f456ac28caf9a0c7ea4be0ef0b282/DEM080160BVMH-PWN.pdf | 
| 211 | 62 | Maximilian Seesslen | 80x160; IPS; 7.83€ | 
| 212 | 44 | Maximilian Seesslen | 3,1V fuers Backlight sind halt doof. | 
| 213 | 36 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 214 | h1. USB | ||
| 215 | |||
| 216 | Ohne Display und USB ist es irgendwie doof. Eine schoene Gui haette schon was. | ||
| 217 | STM32F042C6U6 mit CAN: CANDis kann das anzeigen. | ||
| 218 | Wie wird dsa normal gepowert? Ohnehin USB. | ||
| 219 | |||
| 220 | STM32F042C6U6 haett ich noch | ||
| 221 | * UFQFPN48 | ||
| 222 | 38 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Reicht 32K fuer USB? | 
| 223 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | * STM32F042C6U6 is already one of the cheapest USB; 3,15€ | 
| 224 | 46 | Maximilian Seesslen | * STM32L151C6U6: 3,33€ | 
| 225 | |||
| 226 | h1. Schalten | ||
| 227 | |||
| 228 | R_DS ist ca. 50 milli Ohm bei 2V | ||
| 229 | 47 | Maximilian Seesslen | Mit Kalibrier-Kanal i.O. | 
| 230 | 48 | Maximilian Seesslen | -> Nur mit P-MOSFET schalten, on per default ist ok. | 
| 231 | -> 10K PD; 0,3mA * 5 -> 15mA | ||
| 232 | 49 | Maximilian Seesslen | -> internal pulldowns of STM32 are 40K, so 47K should also be fine | 
| 233 | -> Theoretically resistors are not decessary during runtime at all. | ||
| 234 | 52 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 235 | h1. Consumtion | ||
| 236 | |||
| 237 | Accidantly all 5 channels could be active; | ||
| 238 | 53 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 239 | 52 | Maximilian Seesslen | 250mA * 5; 1,25 ampere would flow. The LDO has to be powerfull. | 
| 240 | 54 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 241 | 55 | Maximilian Seesslen | Is there any use to power it via USB? Directly 3V? | 
| 242 | 54 | Maximilian Seesslen | I have this small 3V JST-USB adapters. | 
| 243 | 56 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 244 | 1mm trace width in power supply should be ok, around 15°C temperature rise with all 2,5A. | ||
| 245 | 49 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 246 | h1. Vorwiederstand ADC | ||
| 247 | |||
| 248 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | Ist der ADC aus versehen als ausgang und LOW geschaltet, liegen an diesem direkt 3V an, zumindest wenn das zu messende Kabel perfekt bzw. gebrueckt ist. | 
| 249 | 63 | Maximilian Seesslen | The maximum current for any one pin is 25 mA sink or source. | 
| 250 | An resistor of min 120Ohm (25mA) is needed. 240Ohm @ 3,6V: 15mA | ||
| 251 | 51 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 252 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Schematics | 
| 253 | 66 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 254 | 70 | Maximilian Seesslen | V_REF+ is connected via 33uH to VDD; 100nF | 
| 255 | BOOT0-Pin is not used as default. No interest in serial bootloader at the moment. | ||
| 256 | |||
| 257 | 66 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 258 | 57 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 259 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | h1. Order | 
| 260 | 69 | Maximilian Seesslen | |
| 261 | 68 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Display; DEM096160ATMH-PWN | 
| 262 | * LEDs; LTST-C155KGJRKT | ||
| 263 | 57 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Surpressor Diode 3,5PTV; UCLAMP3301D.TCT | 
| 264 | 58 | Maximilian Seesslen | * SMD2512-12R-1% | 
| 265 | 68 | Maximilian Seesslen | * FPC connector | 
| 266 | 1 | Maximilian Seesslen | * Spule 33µH; NLV10KTC330 |